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Development Director of BRANDstand Communications, Millie Kendall MBE, tells 35 Thousand how she is juggling this role and her other as CEO of the British Beauty Council in lockdown. She talks us through her newfound love of Tai Chi, life as a workaholic and how she misses travel right now.

Q: Tell us about your work…

A: “I am a multi-tasker so I have two jobs currently. I am the development director of BRANDstand Communications, a boutique beauty PR agency. We have an office in central London where I have two partners, Andrew Perera who is the worlds nicest guy and a successful and talented publicist, and Anna-Marie Solowij, former Beauty Director of British Vogue who I have known for over 25 years. We met when I was running the cosmetics brand Shu Uemura and she was the beauty editor at Elle Magazine.”

“I am also the CEO of the British Beauty Council, a non-profit organisation dedicated to raising the reputation of the beauty industry by enhancing education and investing in innovation. We are pleased to support a successful, innovative and inclusive beauty industry. We have defined and valued the industry of the past year and it is worth an incredible £28.4 billion to Britain’s GDP which is something to be proud of. We create open source reports and hold events to showcase our industry to the public and future-proof it for generations to come.”

Q: ‘What’s your context outside of work?

A: “I have two daughters – one is Lucia, 13, who lives with me part-time and spends a few days a week with her Dad, and my older daughter Sadie, is 23 and lives in LA, which is where I grew up and where most of my family live. I live in Highgate, London, which I love. I like the vibrancy of life here, the 4 seasons a day, the nightlife and the people.

I have no pets – I can barely keep a cactus alive. I’m a workaholic and it is my downfall, but I am learning Tai Chi to counterbalance the work load and the fact that my mind never switches off. I also like going out – still at 53 if you ask me to go down the road for a drink and a chat, I’m there. I rarely say no!”

Q: What is your normal day-to-day life like?

A: “I am an early riser and I like the quiet time in the mornings. I like my own company, so a shower and half an hour at my dressing table is absolute bliss for me. It’s like my own type of meditation. I’m not much into staying home and watching TV at night, so I’m usually socialising or chatting to friends (though I can pull the odd coach potato day at the weekends).

I do try to cut my work week off on a Friday night and recharge over the weekends. When I became aware that all I did was work, I realised that if I didn’t make the disconnection at the weekends then I just wouldn’t live very long. I like long walks on Hampstead Heath, pretending I have a dog.”

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Pr Executive and CEO of the British Beauty Council, Millie Kendall
Q: What is your day-to day life like now currently during COVID-19?

A: “Well it has changed dramatically. I thought I worked hard before, but my goodness I’m up at 5am usually sat at my desk by 5.30am. I take a walk in the mornings, around 9am and then do Tai Chi in the garden at 10am for an hour. I work through lunch and try to finish at dinner, but lately, with trying to support an industry and workforce of almost 600 thousand people I find I am working until I go to sleep. I am also currently all Zoomed-out.”

Q: How has it impacted you personally and professionally?

A: “I have good days and not so good days. It’s hard because whilst I love spending time alone I can’t see my daughter in LA. I have cancelled a few trips abroad, so that’s a huge shame – I was meant to go to Jamaica, Bergerac, Iceland, Amsterdam, Paris etc…I had so much travel lined up and was really looking forward to it but am focused on rebooking those trips for next year.

Professionally I am just swamped. Our industry has really come together over this, but my role at the Beauty Council really means I am having to step up and remain calm and concise.”

Q: What are you finding challenging?

A: “Not being in my office, not being outdoors enough and the intense increase in work. Homeschooling and just motivating my 13 year old is also a challenge.”

Q: Where are you finding hope and optimism?

A: Just the thought of seeing my daughter really. I feel hope just watching her thrive throughout this awful time in a country 5000 miles away.”

Q: What do you miss about life before COVID-19 that you never thought you would?

A: “Coffee made by someone else. Walking past the BT tower every morning. My call to my best friend on my way to work. Sleep! I am not sleeping much at all.”

Q: How are you getting through?

A: “Honestly the Tai Chi has been a life saver. I had a friend called the Barefoot Doctor who practiced Tai Chi every day. He passed away earlier in the year and I was really quite shocked by his passing. When lockdown started I noticed a group of people in my communal garden practicing – people of all ages, around 8 of them. I sort of longingly looked out my window hoping they would invite me to join and then one day they did. We are all spaced responsibly throughout the large garden and we practice Qi-Gong and Tai Chi every morning at 10am rain or shine. I love it.”

Q: What is your mindset about how to use your time at home (Hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time, dive into unexplored creative pursuits?)

A: “I thought I would relax more and have more time, but I am cooking, cleaning, homeschooling and working. I am definitely hustling. I haven’t found relaxing very easy.”

Q: Personally how are you managing your mind and wellbeing and that of your family?

A: “My beauty regime is a big part of my wellbeing, because it’s my personal time with me. I am not one to share my beauty routine on social media, because in a way it is so private to me.”

Q: Despite all the negatives and the brutality of the virus are there positives you feel are coming out of this  – a silver lining perhaps?

A: “Gratitude and kindness. Hopefully a renewed respect for the NHS and our nation’s hairdressers too!”

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The makeup artist and cosmetics entrepreneur Trish Mcevoy talks to 35 Thousand about how she’s maintaining her business and managing her health in these turbulent times

Tell us about your work…

“I am the founder and CEO of Trish McEvoy Beauty. I started my career in New York City as a makeup artist, launching my own line of skincare, makeup, and brushes in 1975. To this day, I run my business out of our New York office on East 57th Street where I work with my fabulous team; some of whom have been with me for 35+ years.

My favorite part about my work is the way that I am able to interact with people and make them feel good. My brand’s mission is to help demystify beauty in order to help women and men feel their most confident. Being able to help others in that way has truly been a blessing.”

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What’s your context outside of work (do you have family, pets, where do you live, hobbies, and commitments)?

“Despite living in Manhattan for so many years, it will never lose its magic touch for me. I spend much of my time outside of work continuing to explore the city. I love walking my dogs in Central Park and catching up with friends over dinner at local restaurants, both new and old. Outside of New York, I love to travel. London is among one of my favorite cities. I can’t wait to go back.”

What is your normal day-to-day life like?

“No two days are alike, however if I had to describe it, I’d say it starts with a scroll through Instagram. I absolutely love using Instagram for inspiration. People share the most amazing things and I love being able to share what I find with my team. We meet daily at 9 am to review any and all inspiration for the day before diving into upcoming tasks, meetings and events. After a busy day of meetings and calls, I unwind by staying active. Whether it be a walk with the dogs or a run on the treadmill, I find it helps me to clear my head.”

What’s your day-to day life like now currently during COVID-19?

“I am so fortunate to say that it hasn’t changed much, aside from the fact that I now do everything from my apartment. Our team has quickly adapted to Zoom meetings and we still kick the day off with inspirational pieces, whether it be a post from Instagram or a song to help lift our spirits.

In terms of staying active, that’s gone virtual, too! I do virtual workout classes with 305 Fitness and Bandier.

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The Trish McEvoy Power of Makeup makeup planner is the perfect companion for busy women
How has it impacted you personally and professionally? What are you finding challenging?

“There isn’t one person in the world that this hasn’t effected both personally and professionally. I feel so blessed to have my health, family, friends, and business, but there certainly have been obstacles.

As I mentioned earlier, I love the human interaction of my job. While Zoom is a fabulous way to stay in touch with friends and colleagues, it isn’t quite the same, as I’m sure so many can relate.”

Where are you finding hope and optimism?

“As I mentioned, I love the sense of community that Instagram brings. I’ve found countless people—such as Kirsty Godso and Tanya Zuckerbrot via Instagram who bring such positivity and light to a dark situation. Having this time at home has also helped me find new music, which truly helps to set the mood. I absolutely adore Dua Lipa. Her song “Physical” is my go-to for an instant pick-me-up. I love to run on the treadmill while I listen! I’m also a fan of Maluma, a Colombian singer a friend of mine introduced me to.”

What do you miss about life before COVID-19 that you never thought you would?

“Truthfully, I’m not shocked by what I miss. I miss it all and can’t wait to be out exploring the world again.”

How are you getting through?

“When faced with uncertainty, my biggest piece of advice is to recognize how you are feeling and allow yourself to feel that way. Even if what you are feeling is uncomfortable, it’s important to take a few deep breaths and allow yourself to relax into that feeling.

Once I allow for that to happen, I sit down, write out my plan for the day to give myself some structure. Then, I have my sense of purpose for the day and can physically cross things off my list, which truly allows for a sense of peace. When I need to go deeper, I will write out what I am feeling in my journal or FaceTime someone that will uplift the mood that I’m in. It’s so important to remember we are all in this together, and more often than not, others close to you are feeling the same.”

What is your mindset about how to use your time at home (Hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time, dive into unexplored creative pursuits?)

“It’s made me stay motivated. I work with my team tirelessly to brainstorm new ways to engage with our community and to think of ways that we can help be their source of hope and optimism.”

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Kristen Pressner is a Global People & Culture executive living in Switzerland. She talks to 35Thousand about juggling back-to-back virtual meetings with four teens in lockdown, daily meditation, and getting ‘Back to better.’

Tell us about your work…

“I’m a Global People & Culture executive. I’m American but have lived in Switzerland for 12 years. I work in the diagnostics/pharma/healthcare industry and in the context of COVID-19, it’s an honor to see the work we do every day impacting patients’ lives around the world in a very real way.”

What’s your context outside of work?

“My husband of 20 years, Dan and I have 4 teenagers (19, 18, 16 and 13). We’re especially blessed to be all together during these ‘shelter in place’ days. It’s been 4 weeks of just the 6 of us (plus Mochi, our cat) and I am surprised how well it is going!”

What is your normal day-to-day life like?

“Typically I travel about 50% of the time, all over the world. I am frequently meeting face-to-face with all different sized groups, from one-on-one to meetings of all sizes, to addressing crowds of thousands. We’re transforming our People & Culture organization to an agile working model and thus the day to day often requires thinking in a very different way than in the past, both about our business and the way the People & Culture organization plays a key role in enabling it.”

What is your day-to day life like now currently during COVID-19?

“All meetings are Zoom, Hangouts or phone call – back-to-back. I had to learn how to organize myself and my days in a completely different way.”

Kristen Pressner working from home during the Corona Crisis
How has it impacted you personally and professionally?

“I’m juggling trying to eat well, fit in meditation, a well as exercise (I used to take the stairs up 18 flights to my office each day) and also make sure that my teams’, my colleagues’, and my family’s emotional and psychological well-being are also being cared for, albeit in some cases, from a distance.”

What are you finding challenging?

“Firstly, being purposeful to find the new normal and establish patterns that work. Secondly, not being stuck in front of my computer, or having back-to-back meetings all day. Some days, it’s about just being kind to myself.”

Where are you finding hope and optimism?

“This pandemic will end. The world won’t go ‘back to normal’ but we do have the opportunity to establish a new, better normal. We like to call it ‘Back to better’. I feel this is possible and hope that an unthinkable humanitarian challenge can then accelerate important and positive change for the better.”

What do you miss about life before COVID-19 that you never thought you would?

“Wearing fabulous shoes! I broke my foot 8 months ago and was on crutches and a cast. I longed for the days I could wear all my fabulous shoes again. Then after I healed, COVID-19 happened and I still only wear trainers! My heels must think I’ve abandoned them.”

How are you getting through? What are your coping strategies?

“I am very serious about fitting in my daily meditation (my favourite is the app 10% happier – they are offering certain elements for free during COVID-19). I also get sunshine and fresh air every day, but I know we are privileged to have a garden. I am also being kind to myself. I find the whole “People who changed the world while in quarantine” pressure, or the ‘Use this time wisely’ talk unhelpful. They probably didn’t have four teens at home.”

What is your mindset about how to use your time at home (Hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time, dive into unexplored creative pursuits?)

“I don’t have ‘newfound time.’ My work is accelerated in ways that a day feels like a year and the stakes are incredibly high. In addition, the additional ‘asks’ at home such as re-working routines, finding food for 6 in these times, caring for peoples’ emotional needs and worrying about family and friends all over the world, actually has me quite exhausted. What I do plan to do during this time is play the long game of mental wellbeing and learning to ride the wave for when we are ‘back to better.’”

Personally how are you managing your mind and wellbeing and that of your family?

“Meditation and open discussion. We talked about what we are grieving the loss of and how ‘Comparative suffering’ (see Brene Brown podcast) is a trap we don’t want to fall into. We’re now cultivating a daily practice of gratitude – for being together, for being healthy (so far), for having a garden and sunshine, etc.”

Despite all the negatives and the brutality of the virus are there positives you feel are coming out of this  – a silver lining perhaps?

“I do think the ‘Back to better’ will include accelerated advancement in working from home, location agnostic workforce and gig working, telemedicine and other healthcare advances and a newfound gratitude for the simple things in life.”

Tell us about your work…

“I’m the Chief Marketing Officer of Chili’s Grill and Bar based in Dallas, TX.  I love getting to think about making people happy every day.  My email subject lines often involve Margaritas and baby back ribs.”

What’s your context outside of work?

“I’m married to a corporate pilot and have two sons, 8 and 5, plus a dog, Bo, and a fish called Dory.  We live in the ‘burbs outside Dallas.  I love to cook, read, travel, plan parties, and binge watch TV with my husband (after the kids are in bed).  We spend weekends (non-quarantine) at the pool, gym or ballpark.  Our families live far away, so we count on our nanny to help us.”

What is your normal day-to-day life like?

“Usually, we get the two boys off to school (Shoes! Teeth! Backpack!) and traverse the one hour commute to the office.  I talk (hands-free) on the drive to make the most of it.  Usually meetings all day, back to back at the office including working lunch.  I have about 8 hrs of meetings a day, varying from leadership team to agency recommendations/decisions to coaching and 1:1s.  There are lots of decisions.  The drive home is another hour.  Then begins dinner, bath and bed – usually our nanny will have helped with homework and to straighten up the boys’ spaces.”

Ellie Doty multitasking in her new home office
What is your day-to day life like now currently during COVID-19?

“The morning routine is much more chill – my husband and I usually both have calls beginning around 8, so we take them while the boys are on devices and eating breakfast. Then we tag-team homeschool in between obligations as best we can.  Truthfully, he does most of it.  I still haven’t figured out how to access all the portals.  Plus our 8-year old is dyslexic and has ADHD, so he needs lots of breaks.

All the usual routines are off as we are in survival mode (with me in restaurants, him in aviation).  I have put in place daily video chats with my team to stay connected.  I like having no commute though.”

How has it impacted you personally and professionally?

“Professionally we have been hit hard with restaurant dining rooms closed – that’s significant revenue loss.  Same for corporate aviation which has ground to a halt.  We’ve had a few ‘state of the union’ convos, refocussing on a new budget and new savings horizon. 

Personally, it has been delightful to be with my children and husband more than usual though.  We have been swimming and cooking almost every day, which fuels me up!”

What are you finding challenging?

“Managing fear and uncertainty for myself, especially in isolation.  Being fuelled by interaction with other humans, it’s a big change to me to lead from afar.  I also find leading others in fear and isolation a new challenge.  I’m working on practicing transparency, vulnerability and community – which still works even now.  The biggest one has got to be HOMESCHOOLING though!”

Where are you finding hope and optimism?

“It is encouraging to see how easily and quickly we come together in a dramatically new normal.  It gives me hope that no matter how this ends up going, we’ll be changed for the better on the other side.  Particularly, at the restaurants, there are millions of stories of the ‘helpers’ – teams helping guests, guests helping teams, and teams helping each other.” 

What do you miss about life before COVID-19 that you never thought you would?

“I actually miss going to the office – this life with no commute, time to cook and time with my kids has long been a fantasy of mine. But, man, it’s hard to get the sort of work done I need to without being in person with the team – it’s dozens of people and millions of dollars.  Those cats are easier to herd in person.  Also the gym.  Which I usually dread.”

How are you getting through? What are your coping strategies? Do you have any objects, routines or tools that you are finding particularly uplifting right now?

“Well, if I said a vodka drink at 5pm, would you judge me?  Seriously though, my husband and I have been coping by getting those household tasks you always put off , done (my closet looks amazing) which is super satisfying.  Music is helping too – whether peaceful Hawaiian to help everyone chill out, Edith Piaf for cooking, or loud pop hits for a kitchen dance party, there’s nothing like some tunes to shift the mindset.  Oh, and all those built-in speakers are now functional thanks to coping tool #1.”

What is your mindset about how to use your time at home? (Hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time, dive into unexplored creative pursuits?)

“A little bit of all three.  The hustle was ON in the first couple weeks when we could barely break away from our phones as one blow after another hit restaurants and aviation.  Now, we are feeling grateful every day for the gift of time – with each other, with the boys, with our home.  In some ways, it is exactly the sort of full stop needed to kill the inertia of life’s obligations.  Like a flood or a forest fire, life is now ALL about the important things like togetherness with your immediate people, creative nourishment, and quiet ways to care for yourself.”

Personally how are you managing your mind and wellbeing? and that of your family

“I’ve noticed a real difference in the way extroversion and introversion preferences show up right now.  As an extrovert, I need social interaction for my wellbeing so I have been very proactive about reaching out, facetime happy hours, Zoom birthday songs, just checking-in texts.  But I hear from my introverted friends that they are in heaven! “

Despite all the negatives and the brutality of the virus are there positives you feel are coming out of this  – a silver lining?

“YES.  A dramatic reprioritization of what matters and how to show up for others. Perhaps this ‘crisis like collaboration’ will help us find the muscles to accomplish other things together like environmental protection.  It forms a case study for government in action (across all countries and states) that may open our eyes to previous rhetoric, bias and advocacy.  And, for me, on a small scale, it is such a gift to have this much time with my boys at these ages.  I feel like we are making memories we never would have made otherwise (in a good way).”

As a medical physician at Houston Methodist hospital Anh Nguyen is working shifts in the emergency department. Here she tells 35 Thousand how it has changed her life so far.

Tell us about your work…

“I’m an emergency medicine physician in Houston, Texas. I work for Houston Methodist Hospital, the best hospital in Texas for many years running. I love my job. I get to take care of the sickest patients, work with inspiring colleagues, and make a difference in the community.”

What’s your context outside of work?

“I live with my husband and our 2-year old daughter. We love traveling and being active.”

What is your normal day to day life like?

“Work, reading, crossfit, playing with Kennedy. We love outdoor activities such as hiking and going to the park. We dine out often and we try to travel once every 2 months.”

What is your day-to day life like now currently during COVID 19?

“Work has ramped up significantly with COVID- 19. In addition to shifts in the Emergency Department, I am working with my colleagues to update processes to prioritize staff and treat critical patients.

We spend many hours researching treatments and clinical recommendations as our knowledge on this disease evolves daily. I also work remotely from home doing telemedicine.”

Anh Nguyen at home
Anh at home with her daughter
How has it impacted you personally and professionally?

“It’s profoundly impacted every minute of my life both at work and at home. At work, being on edge all the time is very mentally draining and exhausting. I am constantly trying not to infect myself and my family members.

At home, it’s nice to all be together, but we all feel severely limited in our movements and activities, especially with a two-year old. We know that we are among the lucky ones to still have jobs and our health, so we try to keep things in perspective. On the bright side, this is the most time we’ve ever spent continuously together.”

What are you finding challenging?

“Everything. Figuring out how to work from home, managing my anxiety, and amusing my toddler.”

Where are you finding hope and optimism?

“In all the helpers all in society – everyone is making huge sacrifices. There is nobody that has not been negatively affected by this in one way or another, but so many people have reached out to volunteer their time and efforts to support those of us on the front line.

I really appreciate small businesses donating products and food to help out healthcare workers even though their businesses are taking a huge economic hit.”

How are you getting through?

“Exercise and leaning on friends and family. I also treat myself with sweets and a glass of wine every day.”

What is your mindset about how to use your time at home? Do you hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time or dive into unexplored creative pursuits?

“I have had actually way less free time as my daughter is home all day (she usually spends a lot of time with her grandparents and has her usual classes and activities). When she gets to bed, I try to write. I actually wrote a children’s book on how she must be feeling at this time.”

Personally how are you managing your mind and wellbeing and that of your family?

“We try to compartmentalize and dedicate time each day to be “COVID- 19 conversation-free.” We figure out what we can control and focus on that. We exercise together and play together. Kennedy has never had more new toys in her life.

For myself, I try to reach out to my friends and colleagues if even to video chat for 10 minutes. I also try to journal, if I have time.”

Despite all the negatives and the brutality of the virus are there positives you feel are coming out of this  – a silver lining perhaps?

“The speed of research and collaboration with doctors and scientists internationally is nothing short of incredible. We have never had access to this much data instantly. I have learnt so much from our global colleagues in China, Italy, NYC, etc. We are all using social media and groups as a way to disseminate knowledge and commiserate with each other. We are truly all in the same boat, and we all believe we will get through this together.”

Jennifer Trejo is a naturopath whose company, The Abundant Life Wellness Centre in Fort Worth, Texas, offers advanced, natural health services, She educates her clients about how to live a healthier and more holistic lifestyle. Here, Jennifer talks to 35 Thousand about telemedicine appointments,the joy of unexpected time with her family and why it’s a tough time for naturally ‘huggy’ people right now.

Q: Tell us about your work

A: “I own Abundant Life Wellness Center in Fort Worth, Texas.  I am a Naturopath and love helping people find solutions to their chronic health conditions.”

Q: What’s your context outside of work?

A: “I have been married for 18 years and have a 17 year old daughter and a 13 year old son.  We have two cats, two horses and one tortoise.  We live in Fort Worth and I love to read, spend time with my family and serve at my church.” 

Q: What is your normal day-to-day life like?

A: “I work Monday through Thursday at my wellness center seeing clients and leading my staff.  Evenings are spent going to my children’s activities, overseeing homework and having long talks with teenagers (if they feel like talking that is.)  Fridays are when I take care of myself and do administrative duties for my practice.  Weekends are reserved for family and church.”

Q: What is your day-to day life like now currently during COVID-19?

“I am offering both in-office and telemedicine appointments for my clients due to the virus.   And after I have worked all day, I now get to go home and help to homeschool my children so that is unexpected!  They are older so it definitely could be worse; I am grateful I don’t have to homeschool elementary-aged children.  Not having to rush to sporting events or school meetings after work has also been a big change.”

Q: How has it impacted you personally and professionally?

A: “It has impacted our family travel plans personally.  We had an 11 night Italy and Greece cruise planned for the summer so that will definitely not be happening.  My children are sad that they can’t see their friends whenever they like.  Professionally, my staff have had to stop providing certain services but other services have increased greatly so there has been a balance. 

I have not had to lay off any full time staff – I have been creative with assigning work duties but no one has lost their jobs.  I have an amazing staff and they are willing to do what it takes to serve our clients.”

Q: What are you finding challenging?

A: “Helping my son with 7th grade math!”

Q: Where are you finding hope and optimism?

A: “In less than 18 months, my daughter will be leaving for university, so before all of this, I was trying to savor every moment I could get with her.  Now, I have her undivided attention so much more.  We cook at home more than we did before, and we have more time for family game nights which I love.”

Q: What do you miss about life before COVID-19 that you never thought you would?

A: “I am a natural hugger; I hug most of my clients, my staff and my friends.  I can only hug my immediate family now. It feels uncomfortable for me to say goodbye to many people and be unable to give them a hug.  Physical touch can be so healing to many people.”

Q: How are you getting through and what are your coping strategies?

“My Christian faith is what is getting me through.  I have always had a morning quiet time with the Lord before my day started but now I have an extended time to help calm my mind before the craziness of the day hits.   I love to listen to praise and worship music and pray on my drive to work because it gets my mind and spirit in the right place.”

Q: “What is your mindset about how to use your time at home (Hustle harder with newfound time, be still and soak up the gift of time, or dive into unexplored creative pursuits?)”

A: “I am being productive because my practice will be moving this Summer to a larger space that will include adding more services.  My family will be selling our home and moving about 45 minutes away to a new home.  So this time has been a Godsend to be able to brainstorm and get organized for the many changes coming later this year.”

Q: Personally how are you managing your mind and wellbeing and that of your family?

A: “If there is a glimpse of sun outside, we make sure we are walking or playing outdoors.  Exercise and fresh air does wonders for our mind and wellbeing.  I am also ensuring my family is supplementing with immune boosting nutrients like healthy food, Vitamin D, C, Zinc and probiotics.  Getting plenty of sleep and exercise is also invaluable to our wellbeing.”

A: Despite all the negatives and the brutality of the virus, are there positives you feel are coming out of this  – a silver lining perhaps?

A: “I have much more family time that I truly never thought I would have at this stage of our lives.  Our pace of life is slow and sweet and I am so thankful for that.”

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